Starting the Pauling Therapy (w/pills) for Newbies

The discussion of the Linus Pauling vitamin C/lysine invention for chronic scurvy

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Starting the Pauling Therapy (w/pills) for Newbies

Post Number:#1  Post by ofonorow » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:28 am

Request granted to make this easier to find. From '80-year old with stents seeking advice' post in archive.
I am a Scottish gentleman my 80's and I would like some guidance, having just received 3 stents. I cannot take plavix nor comuadin. There are PAD issues in the knee area. Your help would be very much appreciated.
G.


The standard protocol is based on Linus Pauling's recommendations, and is always to supplement vitamin C as ascorbic acid (usually at least 10,000 mg daily, but even better to bowel tolerance) and lysine (max. 6000 mg).

Unfortunately, the tolerance for vitamin C varies widely among individuals. See: http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm for information on vitamin C bowel tolerance.

It is best to start with one 500 mg tablet of vitamin C (ascorbic acid with the fewest fillers) every 3 or 4 waking hours.

Ditto lysine, take one 500 mg tablet with vitamin C every 3 or 4 hours.

If after a day or two, you determine that you can tolerate this amount (usually 5 * 500 or 2500 mg of each) and there are no tolerance issues (e.g. diarrhea) then increase both the vitamin C and lysine until issues are reached, e.g. try 2 tablets (every 3 or 4 hours) or 1000 mg of each, gradually increasing to tolerance.

When you reach tolerance, contact us. Some people cannot tolerate as little as 200 mg every 3/4 hours. (If this is your case, we can recommend some liposomal products.) If your tolerance is at least 2500 mg we can recommend Cardio-C. If 6000 mg we might recommend a Tower heart tech product, etc.

Vitamin C tolerance can reach up to 10,000 mg, 20,000 mg or even 30,000 mg per day, depending on the individual.

Note - we recommend equal dosages up to 6000 mg daily, but we do not recommend increasing lysine more than 6000 mg total per day.

My entire heart disease nutritional protocol (largely based on Linus Pauling's) can be downloaded as an excerpt from my book: http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/protocol.htm


Additional Information for Newcomers

1. Take the pure PT powders 20 minutes prior to meals. (This based now on almost 20 years of trial-and-error. People report having fewer nuisance issues on an empty stomach)

2. Avoid taking high amounts of Fiber along with vitamin C and lysine. The problem seems to be that Fiber is not digested and can attach to some/all of these nutrients, preventing their absorption. See:
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/stories.html#RALPHS

3. Fluoridated water may interfere with the therapy. Use non-flouridated water: See: http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11575

4. Here are johnwen's calculations/tables for determining your individualized minimum PT (vitamin C) dosage for preventing cardiovascular disease: See: http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7593

Links to the Various Testimonials.

http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/#TESTIMONY
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/stories.html
http://www.internetwks.com/testimony.html
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/rehs.html
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/joke.html
http://www.internetwks.com/pauling/JonCat.html

Page to Owen's radio interviews (hope links are still good)http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/radio/

http://paulingtherapy.com (web site devoted to Pauling's therapy)

Linus Pauling's Last Interview
http://www.hearttechnology.com/Pauling_Last_Published_Interview.html


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Re: Starting the Pauling Therapy (w/pills) for Newbies

Post Number:#2  Post by heken123 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:22 am

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Post Number:#3  Post by ofonorow » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:27 am

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Post Number:#4  Post by tangy » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:14 am

Please make this sticky.

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Post Number:#5  Post by ladyluck091 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:03 pm

is there any specific brands of ascorbic acid and l-lysine that are recommended?---i've noticed that l-lysine freq has HCI after the name? is this the one to use??

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Post Number:#6  Post by ofonorow » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:20 am

Thank you for what turned out to be a very interesting question! There are alternate form of lysine sold (I thought they were all Lysine HCL (hydrocholoride). Ranchers and live stock growers are interested in the "best" lysine because lysine is usually the limiting factor in growth, and thus lysine is added to the diets to produce larger animals.

Comparison of L-lysine·HCl and L-lysine sulphate in the feed of Penaeus monodon and re-evaluation of dietary lysine requirement for P. monodon
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/are.12868/full

L-lysine monohydrochloride (L-lysine HCl), which contains a minimum of 78% lysine (Smiricky-Tjardes, Mavromichalis, Albin, Wubben, Rademacher & Gabert 2004), is a common source of free lysine for addition to poultry and aquaculture diets. One alternative is L-lysine sulphate, which contain a minimum L-lysine content of 46.8% in Biolys60 (Evonik Degussa AG, Frankfurt, Germany) or 51% in lysine Plus (CJ Biotech, Liaocheng, Shandong, China). Both L-lysine HCl and L-lysine sulphate are products of bacterial fermentation, however, post-fermentation processes differ. Unlike L-lysine HCl were the bacterial biomass is removed, the fermentation broth of L-lysine sulphate is not separated from the bacterial biomass and not transferred to the hydrochloric salt (Schutte & Pack 1994).

L-lysine sulphate showed equal efficacy as L-lysine HCl in studies with chicken and pigs


As far as vitamin C, there have been a few reported "failures" of the Pauling therapy that perhaps can be attributed to an inferior form (or stale?) vitamin C. Not many, but we have tracked down a few theories over the years (that perhaps some vitamin C is a mixture of the D- and L- forms). However, we never proved conclusively that the two nutritional authorities asserting this are correct (i.e., they may have been mistaking vitamin C for vitamin E. vitamin E definitely comes as the less effective dl-tocopherol. The natural vitamin E is the D-tocopherol and thought to be a better form of vitamin E.)

As far as trusting products, we have recommended Nature's Made pills - both vitamin C and lysine - for beginners, which are readily available in drug stores and seem to be of high quality. There is always an issue of the "fillers" used in pills, so pure powders would be ideal, and should be taken together based on other knowledge (that the amino and vitamin C can combine or chelate - protecting the C during digestion - ref Sherry Lewin)

Tower Laboratories has been selling Pauling Therapy products since 1996, or more than twenty years. Inteligent Vitamin C (and its predecessor) has been selling the stripped down Cardio-C circa 2005. In my mind, these PT formulas have been field tested and proven. My book contains a chapter on the cases, and we have posted many more: https://vitaminccures.com/blog/index.php/heart-disease-testimonials/

Last week the original book, Practicing Medicine without a License? became available on Amazon Kindle:

https://www.amazon.com/Practicing-Medicine-Without-License-Pauling-ebook/dp/B0731L3MF8/ref=sr_1_1_twi_kin_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1499084340&sr=1-1&keywords=fonorow+practicing
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Re: Starting the Pauling Therapy (w/pills) for Newbies

Post Number:#7  Post by ladyluck091 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:15 pm

thanks!


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