German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

Post Number:#121  Post by Frodo » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:03 pm

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Who is Jaffee (C Cleanse)? I couldn't find informations about him. And I don't know him.

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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

Post Number:#122  Post by Frodo » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:56 am

I've found the website of Dr. Russel Jaffe - after searching "Jaffe Cleanse Test". But I have doubts about the test. Dr. Jaffe says "usually a C cleanse result of <_ 4g is a healthy one and a goal for many to achieve".
According to Dr. Steve Hickey the minimum intake is 2-3 grams. "For many this intake will be to low." And " A therapeutic level of vitamin C supplementation used by Dr. Klenner is 350 mg per kilogram bodyweight."
Dr. Hickey recommends for heart disease at least 10 grams.
And I remember animals produce at least 5 grams per day (healthy animals).

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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

Post Number:#123  Post by ofonorow » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:24 am

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The point of the cleanse - according to Jaffee on his youtube lectures - is to establish how much vitamin C you are currently metabolizing. It is on the order for bowel tolerance, but it is a "pre sickness" approach or calibration. (He did say that the Catchart "bowel tolerance" method is too little, to late.) If you have done the calibration, you'll know your "maximum one-time amount" that can be used for bowel tolerance if you do get sick.

The chart above is "cleanse" or "calibration" data from a population, showing the wide range between individuals, and those on the left are "healthy" while those who require massive amounts of ascorbate are generally "sick," This seems to match my experience. And again, since vitamin C intake requirements vary over a wide range, it is a method for an individual to determine their own requirement. There is no one right answer to the question how much vitamin C should an individual take? Jaffee's work shows that most human intakes should be MUCH larger than commonly believed.
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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

Post Number:#124  Post by Frodo » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:37 am

I did the test once again today. I needed 40 grams. Since my first test it dropped down from 50 grams, 48 grams to 40 grams actually. Now I take 30 grams daily (75% of 40 grams).

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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

Post Number:#125  Post by ofonorow » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:40 am

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