Worried about Vit C and blood thinner, kidney stones

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Worried about Vit C and blood thinner, kidney stones

Post Number:#1  Post by ofonorow » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:52 am

Robert, my husband has just read that high doses of Vit C can effect his BLOOD THINNER ((Aggrenox) and causes kidney stones. He is taking approximately 10,000 grams per day. What a safe amount that will not interfere with any of His prescription drugs? What is considered a massive dose for a male (~235lbs)? Thank you.
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Johnwen is this "blood thinner" a vitamin-K antagonist? Would vitamin C have any negative effect?

This was my original response.

We are interested where this information was found, as both are inaccurate.

Vitamin C is not a blood thinner by any stretch of the imagination. Vitamin E may sometimes have "blood thinning" properties, but cannot affect the standard INR (clotting) tests either. This is misinformation, but apparently misinformation that every conventional doctor/surgeon has been given. (Rereading, I see you are asking whether vit C can "affect" the blood thinner.)

Kidney stones are a little more complicated. We believe that vitamin C protects against kidney stones, but in some people (with acidic urine) they may wish to take their vitamin C as the alkaline sodium-ascorbate. (Pauling told us that stones will not form in pH neutral urine.) Magnesium can dissolve stones, and vitamin B6 deficiency has been implicated (by Harvard Univ) in the formation of stones.

Dr. Suzane Humphries, MD is a renal/kidney specialist who now promotes high doses of vitamin C. This is a wonderful lecture by her
https://youtu.be/y0LLX0sgwAU


Linus Pauling took (and myself now takes) 18,000 mg of Vitamin C daily, or twice as much as your husband. I think 10,000 is a good amount for most heart patients.
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Re: Worried about Vit C and blood thinner, kidney stones

Post Number:#3  Post by Johnwen » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:41 pm

Johnwen is this "blood thinner" a vitamin-K antagonist? Would vitamin C have any negative effect?


No! It’s a Anti-Platelet Drug that’s combined with Aspirin usually 200mg of Dipyridamole and 25mg. Of aspirin.

It’s a pretty good drug for dilatation of the arteries except for the ones with a stenosis.

Other then the usual black and blue marks that pop up for no good reason!
It has one draw back “NO ALCOHOL,” with this drug! Major Reactions!

As far as the V-C no interactions and no problems!
As usual, allow some time between Drugs and V-C!

His dose is right on the money He’s getting 100mg/Kg which is right at the therapeutic level. It figures to 10.4grams per day but close enough to call it GOOD!
So I would advise to stay at the 10gram a day dose divide over the course of the day!
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