Vitamin C Forum

zarfas wrote:from
http://www.paulingtherapy.com/science.htm

There have been careful experiments with guinea pigs, first attempted by the Canadian Willis in the mid 1950s.

The result is always the same.

When these animals are deprived of vitamin C they die a terrible scurvy death in a matter of weeks. When their vitamin C is limited to the U. S. RDA they live, but develop atherosclerosis. When fed roughly the human equivalent of 3 to 5 gm of vitamin C, the pigs thrive with no signs of atherosclerosis.

Disease in guinea pigs occurs in weeks, the human form of the disease usually takes decades to develop. [1] While differences are to be expected in animal experiments, the lesions produced by these experiments are remarkable for their similarity to the human lesion. [2]



Why can't I find this expirment on pubmed?
Id love to shove this expiriment into the faces of peolpe who thinkI'm crazy to take vit C every 2 hours...along with lysine.

zarfas wrote:

skwoodwiva wrote:

zarfas wrote:from
http://www.paulingtherapy.com/science.htm

There have been careful experiments with guinea pigs, first attempted by the Canadian Willis in the mid 1950s.

The result is always the same.

When these animals are deprived of vitamin C they die a terrible scurvy death in a matter of weeks. When their vitamin C is limited to the U. S. RDA they live, but develop atherosclerosis. When fed roughly the human equivalent of 3 to 5 gm of vitamin C, the pigs thrive with no signs of atherosclerosis.

Disease in guinea pigs occurs in weeks, the human form of the disease usually takes decades to develop. [1] While differences are to be expected in animal experiments, the lesions produced by these experiments are remarkable for their similarity to the human lesion. [2]



Why can't I find this expirment on pubmed?
Id love to shove this expiriment into the faces of peolpe who thinkI'm crazy to take vit C every 2 hours...along with lysine.

Agree.
BTW, my KP Dr will not order a CAC for me. He says I already (read, are hopeless) have CVD what good would it do?
I am ready to fire him. I am looking for evidence to give him. Your link is one do you have more?
Not sure I would do a CAT, rather a MRI for radiation concerns.
Does anybody do the MRI version?

I agree, do the MRI for a heart ...you and I think alike,
Over the past decade, cardiovascular magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has emerged as the gold standard for the evaluation of ventricular systolic function, as well as for evaluation and tissue characterization in ischemic and nonischemic cardiomyopathy.1 Cardiovascular MRI is reproducible, having a high spatial resolution, a relatively high temporal resolution, and no geometric assumption. Consequential to advances in both hardware and software, the imaging time is now considerably shorter than ever before.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2879211/


fire your MD
IM not sure what KP Dr means?
kaiser permanette??? .