Just wathed Rath video again, very sad

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Re: Just wathed Rath video again, very sad

Post Number:#31  Post by guitarplayer007 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:55 am

I'm not doing plant based and had a stent in 2009 with 70 block. But my calcium score as of April 2017 was 1000

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Post Number:#32  Post by maryclaire » Tue May 22, 2018 10:50 am

Ken, do you have a lot of grains and sugar in your diet?

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Post Number:#33  Post by guitarplayer007 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:57 am

I used to have a lot of sugar as in refined carbs...

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Post Number:#34  Post by guitarplayer007 » Tue May 22, 2018 11:06 am

I grew up earing a lot of fast food so that was a lot of white bread and french fries. I have a feeling my CVD is caused by inflammation. I went though Dean Ornish heart reversal program but I'm a odd eater, I don't like most things so that was basically a waste of money. But the Ornish diet does have a lot of complex carbs but people seem to get better on the diet, sane with McDougall and Esselstyn. There must be something more to then lowering dietary cholesterol. ... must be other factored blood profusion increases so quickly when people stop eating animals, dairy, oils

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Post Number:#35  Post by jimmylesante » Tue May 22, 2018 11:07 am

Rather, I would combine DMSO with an antibiotic, although the solvent by itself has anti-bacterial properties. It will convert bacteria which are resistant to a given antibiotic to being sensitive to that same antibiotic.” This DMSO characteristic of resensitizing bacteria could possibly restore an entire group of obsolete antibiotics to the armamentarium of medical practitioners.

Walker, Morton. Dmso: Nature's Healer (p. 40). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

Drs. Grismali and Barrios summed up their therapeutic results for the DMSO treatment of CVD with atherosclerosis and high blood pressure in the following manner: Good 74.35 percent Fair 21.77 percent Zero 3.88 percent

Walker, Morton. Dmso: Nature's Healer (p. 175). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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Post Number:#36  Post by guitarplayer007 » Tue May 22, 2018 11:11 am

Thanks

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Post Number:#37  Post by zarfas » Tue May 22, 2018 11:18 am

guitarplayer007 wrote:I grew up earing a lot of fast food so that was a lot of white bread and french fries. I have a feeling my CVD is caused by inflammation. I went though Dean Ornish heart reversal program but I'm a odd eater, I don't like most things so that was basically a waste of money. But the Ornish diet does have a lot of complex carbs but people seem to get better on the diet, sane with McDougall and Esselstyn. There must be something more to then lowering dietary cholesterol. ... must be other factored blood profusion increases so quickly when people stop eating animals, dairy, oils

I am not following this post
eat a few things,
what is your current inflammation status? test it with HS-CRP,
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A high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) test may be used to help evaluate an individual for risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD). ... CRP is a protein that increases in the blood with inflammation--
what is a "waste of money"?
eat fruits and veggies and eggwhites(proline/lysine; Complete protein) and lift weights and do cardio
yeah, its a hard diet, pizza/pasta/cake are all much better
but this is about your health, right?

so do it and let us know
or dont do it and stop complaing about your heart disease :D

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Post Number:#38  Post by jimmylesante » Tue May 22, 2018 11:27 am

Thanks.

Hope it helps. I always thought the plant based diet had all the vitamins and minerals of good stuff since they say blood and cellulose is 99% similar.
I also assumed wrongly or rightly that the plants ferment in the digestion system to produce vitamin K2.

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Post Number:#39  Post by guitarplayer007 » Tue May 22, 2018 11:46 am

All you have to do is look how Asians used to live before they started eating like americans. No CVD, NO diabetes all were thin and lived long time

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Post Number:#40  Post by zarfas » Tue May 22, 2018 1:12 pm

jimmylesante wrote:Thanks.

Hope it helps. I always thought the plant based diet had all the vitamins and minerals of good stuff since they say blood and cellulose is 99% similar.
I also assumed wrongly or rightly that the plants ferment in the digestion system to produce vitamin K2.



no, if that was true, adding k2 pills wouldnt do anything because you already have k2
who says bloood/cellulose is 99% similar?
some plant based diets are better than others

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Post Number:#41  Post by jimmylesante » Wed May 23, 2018 12:46 pm

Blood and chlorophyll are 99% siilar
K2 is produced by the fermenting of plants in a good bacteria environment in the gut.

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Post Number:#42  Post by zarfas » Sat May 26, 2018 8:51 am

jimmylesante wrote:Blood and chlorophyll are 99% siilar
K2 is produced by the fermenting of plants in a good bacteria environment in the gut.

I like the idea that K2 is produced in the body...so how does that happen? I eat plants and they ferment in my GI track?

So I dont need k2 pills? I just need to eat plants?

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Post Number:#44  Post by zarfas » Sun May 27, 2018 5:35 am

jimmylesante wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1492156
There we go arsfas

thanks immyesantes
so why does taking K2 pills do anything?

If i made vitamin C, would taking MORE vitamin C do anythiong?

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Post Number:#45  Post by pamojja » Sun May 27, 2018 7:23 am

zarfas wrote:
jimmylesante wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1492156
There we go arsfas

thanks immyesantes
so why does taking K2 pills do anything?

If i made vitamin C, would taking MORE vitamin C do anythiong?


Because most due to their bad diet don't have the right mix of microbes in their microbiome, even if they are present only in amounts which would prevent worst deficiencies. To harness the pharmacological effects of many mgs of K2 or grams of vitamin C in chronic conditions it all has to be added additionally.


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