ofonorow wrote:I would like to know the reasoning why the natural vitamin proponents think what they do, and whether it can be backed up by scientific tests.
Don't we all.
I respect Weston Price and his findings, however, even he had to take their word on longevity (or did he live with them for 50, 60 or 70 years?)
And as we have pointed out - patients in comas are given "complete nutrition" products in hospitals, usually IV, and these products have ascorbic acid - no complex. (When Ensure was first introduced, patients died over time. Turns out that biotin is a vitamin, but that wasn't known that biotin was an essential vitamin. They added biotin and today you can live indefinitely on the ingredients in the Ensure formula.
I have seen no explanation from the naturalists about this fact.
Sure Owen,
Lets have a look at the Ensure ingedients. Keep in mind the higher on the list makes up more of the bulk of the product.
Water, sugar, cornsyrup, maltodextrin, calcium caseniate, high-oleic safflower oil, canola oil, soy protein isolate, whey protien concentrate, corn oil, calcium phosphate tribasic, potassium citrate, magnesium phosphate dibasic, natural and artificial flavor, soy lectihin, sodium citrate, magnesium chloride, salt, carrageenan, choline chloride, potassium chloride, ascorbic acid, ferrous sulfate, alpha tocopherhyl acetate, zinc sulfate, niacinamide, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, cupric sulfate, vitamin A palimitate, thiamine chloride hydrocloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, ribofavin, folic acid, chromium chloride, biotin, sodium molybdate, sodium selenate, potassium iodine, phylloquinone, vitamin d-3 and cyanocobalamin.
So the bulk of this product is water sugar and corn syrup.
Anyone in a hospital that is a cancer patient or suffering from sepsis or other types of severe infection drinking this crap is unaware that sugar fuels cancer tumor growth and suppresses the immune system.
high oleic safflower, canola and corn oils are the worst oils to put in the body. Canola comes from the rapeseed family and insects in nature avoid it because it is toxic. Mustard gas was created from the rapeseed. All of these oils promote inflammation, are already heavily oxidized and clog arteries.
Ferrous sulfate as we discussed is nothing but free-unbound metallic iron. Free unbound iron promotes the disease process unlike iron bound to tannins in naturally occuring foods like figs. Which is why the mynah bird never overdosed on iron rich figs until put in captivity and fed iron ENRICHED bird food which then led to iron overload. Cancer thrives on free iron as does bacteria, fungus and virus. We discussed that earlier. Iron from non heme sources as vegetables is cleaved off in the body on a need be basis and this is why you dont overload on organic iron. Red meat, enriched iron is another story.
Third bulk indgredient: Corn syrup. lol. You have to be kidding me! Why not just give them vitamin enriched soda pop?
Its clear to me why people were dying from it at first.
Its dead food. Empty calories, loaded with artery clogging oxidized oils with no essential omega 3, loaded with sugar, artificial flavors, loaded with corn syrup, no enzymes, promotes body-wide inflamation due to the trifecta of harmful oils, feeds diseases like tumors with tons sugar and free unbound iron.
This type of product is typical of hospital food. They team up with food distributors and are ignorant about health and nutrients. I have actually seen this crap fed to cancer patients.
You can not live indefinetly off of this product. It will kill you slowly with any of the major diseases despite the added nutrients. It doesnt mask the toxicity of high sugar which leaches these very nutrients added to the product.
Sugar is a potent immune suppressant and tumor fuel and fuel for yeast, bacteria and fungus. Thats well accepted.
You know as well as I do by what John Ely wrote. Refined sugar blocks ascorbic uptake.
Whats the point of putting the two indgredients in the same product with high concentrations of sugar?
Most all of these other nutrients are blocked by the sugar as its effects on metabolic, hormonal and digestive processes.
This is not food. It is dead food and doesnt sustain life only promotes disease which is why hospitals use it. The worse you get the more treatment and drugs you get.
Might come in handy to lubricate my garbage disposal however.