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New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:18 am
by ofonorow
http://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/in-print/2012/august-2012/15-august-2012/a-frothy-public-scrap.aspx&returnid=33357

Costs $169 per year to read this article intended for New Zealand docs. Here is the little I could see from google..

A couple of years ago there was intense media coverage claiming that high-dose intravenous vitamin C was responsible for saving the life of a critically ill intensive care patient with swine flu. As a result of this, with the active encouragement of ...


Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:56 am
by Dolev
It makes sense for them to hide what they say behind a price tag. I also would certainly want to hide how utterly stupid I am.

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:16 am
by VanCanada

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:52 am
by EHSAL
I did a google search today and found a totally free link to the article. Here it is:
http://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/in-print/2012 ... scrap.aspx

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:31 pm
by VanCanada
EHSAL wrote:I did a google search today and found a totally free link to the article. Here it is:
http://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/in-print/2012 ... scrap.aspx


It brings me to a webpage that says I'm not logged in and that my access is denied.

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:58 am
by EHSAL
Van, I accessed it with no problem the other day but now I get the same result as you did. They must have found the weakness in that link and corrected it.

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:43 am
by ofonorow
EHSAL - did you read the article, and can you summarize from memory? Thx

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:42 am
by EHSAL

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:22 am
by ofonorow
Thanks. Very helpful. I suspect I'll be hearing soon about copyright issues :shock:

But, as we work to resolve this, let us not exploit the vulnerable by making categorical and, I think, deceitful claims for the efficacy of high-dose intravenous vitamin C.



The more scientific approach, of course, is to encourage the experimental study of this very safe, very low cost, and probably extremely efficacious option!

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:49 am
by Dolev
More humility from all of us might be the best way to resolve disputes like this.


No it's not. The best way is by trying it. And maybe studying the science that exists.

Idiots. :roll:

Re: New Zealand docs commenting on Smith Swine Flu recovery?

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:23 pm
by twowheelfree
Henceforth I propose that doctors be required to wear clown noses when consulting with and treating patients.