Lots of interesting things written here.
I have been making liposomal (or something like it) vitamin C using the recipes and instructions on www.qualityliposomalc.com
I have tried various versions, with ascorbic acid, commercial sodium ascorbate, commercial magnesium ascorbate, 161g ascorbic acid + 16g bicarbonate and 161g ascorbic acid + 16g magnesium citrate.
The baking soda test also foams with me, but only upon stirring. Not if I just add it to the mix.
Rather than testing for liposomes, (I don't really care the % that is liposomal), I would like to test effectiveness in terms of vitamin C blood level concentrations. The amount of liposomes will likely ensure a high level, but it's still an indirect test.
If you want to go from place A to B in 1 hour, you might think that you need a vehicle able to travel at 60km/h. But as long as you measure that you can get there in 1 hour, it doesn't matter if you travel at 60 km/h for 1 hour, or 90 km/h for 40 minutes, or 180km/h for 10 minutes and then 40km/h for 45 minutes. So the speed you can reach is less relevant than your ability to get to the destination on time.
I read somewhere that with regular oral Vit C, you can reach up to 220 uml/litre.
Barnsie just wrote his/her daughter reached a blood level of 440 uml/litre with a 7g dose. How much time was in between taking the vit c and the blood test?
My aunt has terminal cancer, and I would like to know if this does anything meaningful, or if it is just milky vitamin C that causes less gastric distress. Some tumor killing happens from 400 uml onwards apparently, and definitely at levels of 1000 uml onwards.
I'm based in Belgium (Europe). Unfortunately I couldn't find any testing facility in my country, but there is on in the Netherlands near Utrecht. (www.europeanlaboratory.nl
) That's just over 2 hours driving for here, so I'm willing to go there and test myself. It costs about 25 EUR/USD per vitamin C blood test + nurse/blood taking costs + prescription from a doctor.
I was thinking of 2 or 3 tests in one day with some time in between.
What would you recommend as a protocol in terms of timing and does anyone know how long it takes to be absorbed in your blood?
I was thinking the following:
Drive there in the morning, take about 15ml (about 3.000 mg of "liposomal" vit c) about an hour before the test (while driving). I typically take about 1tbsp (about 15ml) per dose, so it would be interesting to know how much that raises my blood level.
Then take another 15 ml every 15 minutes for 1 hour (so 4x). So another 12.000 mg. Then wait 30-60 minutes and test again.
That would be 15.000 mg in total, taken over a period of 2,5-3 hours before the second blood test.
Then take nothing for the next 2 hours and test again (to see increase or drop).
Some references online claim every gram of liposomal vit c would be as effective as about 6-7 grams of IV vit C. There are numbers of IV Vit c, so we could compare those. If it is very effective, it should reach levels comparable to those of 90-100g vitC IV drips.
Currently, I can take about 40-50 ml in one go before reaching bowel tolerance (only loose stools, no diarrhea). I have take up to 120ml in one day, feeling fine. I usually take about 3 x 2.000 mg vit c capsules in one day, with the occasional boost of "liposomal C" when I feel I could use it or there are "diseased" people around me.
I'd be happy to do more tests, or try several versions if people are willing to share the costs. I can provide my paypal account for fund generation if useful.
Of course I'll happily share how I make my batch of vitamin C, and the results of the corresponding blood tests.
I already got in touch with a local physician to ask for prescriptions (and the cost of those), but she hasn't answered me back yet.