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Also during 2 of my cyles, into the ultrasonic bath the solution reached 35c, did i destroy my solution totally?

dazed1 wrote:Also during 2 of my cyles, into the ultrasonic bath the solution reached 35c, did i destroy my solution totally?

I would not of thought so as 35C is not that high. It should be fine.

BrightSideOfLife wrote:

dazed1 wrote:Also during 2 of my cyles, into the ultrasonic bath the solution reached 35c, did i destroy my solution totally?

I would not of thought so as 35C is not that high. It should be fine.

But i think it is for the liposomes sadly

I think that is very borderline. BTW if liposomes breakdown there is no reason why they cannot be recreated by redoing the processes at a lower temperature. It is not a one way process. Just reblend and resonicify (I am not certain that is a valid word ) the mixture.

There is no reason to throw it out.

BTW you seem to think in a very digital way ie yes, no, good, bad, success, failure. People are taught this and it is wrong! Real life is not like that. Real life is analogue! A range of values. There is no day or night there is a infinite range of brightness levels between those two points. Try and think more analogue as it is far less restricting and real. Some of your liposomes might of broken down because of the temperature but many will not of done so. It may not be perfect, but it is not a failure it is a success which you can improve on next time. See it as a learning experience.

Hi all. I am new to this forum and to be honest, I know very little about Liposomal Vitamin C. However, I do know a lot about using Ultrasonic Cleaners and perhaps some might find the blog entry here useful. https://bestultrasoniccleaner.wordpress ... -vitamin-c

Have any of you been fully able to remove the acidity from your batch? Otherwise it seems to defeat the purpose of doing it liposomal.

Have you tried reacting the Ascorbic acid with either sodium Bicarb, Potassium Bicarb or even Magnesium Carbonate? Using Magnesium Carbonate would neutralize the acidity of the Ascorbic Acid because it is slightly alkaline. It comes as a bright white powder but when it is mixed with Ascorbic acid it turns clear forming Magnesium Ascorbate. It can be reacted with any other acid if necessary if you want to include Magnesium in an easily absorbed form such as Malic Acid and Magnesium Carbonate to form Magnesium Malate. It can be reacted with Lysine, Proline, TriMethylGlycine etc etc which neutralizes the acidity and forms highly absorbable forms of those amino acids and important magnesium. Plus it's fairly inexpensive and provides large amounts ie 28.8% Magnesium. As I mentioned the Ph is not that high so it takes quite large amounts to neutralise the acidity so you get generous amounts of magnesium when you use it. I frequently use 10ml of Magnesium Carbonate reacted with many different amino acids such as Proline, Lysine, Ascorbic Acid, TriMethylGlycine, Aspartic Acid and a number of others. For the basic things you might require a bit less than 10ml. You can always add some sodium bicarb or potassium bicarb to neutralise any remaining acidity after the magnesium carbonate has taken care of most of the acidity.

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I am preparing to perform the process of contributor norma67 as described on page 6 of this thread. I have 2 questions.

Can the phosphatydlcoline be of the 98% concentrations as some of the trading companies on Alibaba.com claim?

When the sodium ascorbate is added to the phosphatydlcoline, can the motion required be that of the agitation of the sonicator? In other words, pooring the SA solution into a preheated PC solution already in the sonicator? Perhaps on a low power setting until the solution emulsifies. Then on a higher setting to create the proper size liposomes? My sonicator has a 30w and 50w settings.

I am grateful for your ideas. Al.

I'm new here. Just finished reading Chris' qualityliposomalc.com research, and am ready to put it into practice. Nice to meet you all.

I have the following in various shopping baskets, ready to order. Before I pull the trigger, would you mind critiquing these options?

Blender: Vitamix (already own this)

Ultrasonic Cleaner: Wunicorn Ultrasonic Cleaner with Heater Timer Digital Stainless Steel (2L) (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CP5YVTS)

Lecithin: Bluebonnet Nutrition, Super Earth, Lecithin Granules (non-GMO soy, 24.9% Phosphatidylcholine) http://uk.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutritio ... 60-g/12804

Alcohol: Utkins UK5 Pure Grain Organic Vodka (100% chemical-free, 40% proof) http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/uk5-organic-vodka-70cl to purchase, http://www.uk5.org/index3.htm for research

Vitamin C: UK/EU sourced Ascorbic Acid by Nature's Best https://www.naturesbest.co.uk/vitamin-c ... src=gonato

Distilled water: https://apcpure.com/product/Distilled_W ... GwodlYYD4w

Any issues with the above choices?

Hi all,
I'm new here and please excuse my english. What I want to share with you is my correction of this procedure, because like you I also tried to make it and it was too thick to use it comfortely. What I find is really simple method that is based on patent meant in description. The end product is I think visually very similar to professional clear honey-like looking fluid. Other methods I tried never produced such clear fluid. No ultrasound used.
If you want try this:
Ingedients
Ascorbic acid (AA) 120g
Distilled od purified water 310g
Lecithin 60g
Vodka 37,5% vol. 120g
At first boil over distilled water and pour 310g of it to glass jar. Let to cool it to about 50C (122F). Dissolve 120g of AA in it, mix it with plastic spoon. In another glass jar pour 120g of Vodka and add 60g of lecithin and mix it with plastic spoon. Don't use blender, only mix by hand. Don't make bubbles. If it is not perfect homogenous it doesn't matter. Then add AA solution and mix by hand about one minute. Then warm and mix it slowly by 5C (10F) steps in microwawe oven (one step about 20s) until it changes structure to more clear fluid (about 50C 122F). There is threshold. You have to be able to see fingers through the jar. Then it is finished. You can cool it but don't cool it below room temperature because I'm almost sure low temperature destroys liposomes.
Enjoy it.
By Jaromir