Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) - The Anti-Fat Vitamin?

Focus on Hong Kong Dr. Leung's vitamin B5 discovery that megadoses of pantothenic acid maintain metabolism of a calorie deficit, leading to sustained weight loss without hunger, weakness or ketosis

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Re: Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) - The Anti-Fat Vitamin?

Post Number:#16  Post by tangy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:25 pm

zarfas @ If you Google "B5 weight loss forum" you see many people discussing unexpected weight loss from consuming large doses of B5. These people were taking large doses of B5 to get rid of acne and faced a side effect of weight loss.

Also, see this...

According to Vitamins Nutrition, some independent researchers have found that vitamin B5 can be helpful in inducing weight loss in obese patients by increasing the breakdown of fats. However, for this to occur, the dosage of vitamin B5 must be high, which cannot be achieved through food products. Nutritional therapist Dr. Marilyn Glenville has also reported on an increased fat metabolism that occurs with pantothenic acid.


http://www.livestrong.com/article/29564 ... ight-loss/

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Post Number:#17  Post by confused1 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:20 pm

Owen is saying he's going to eat less. If I understand him, b5 allows you to eat less but not experience the hunger, tiredness, and ketosis that goes with dieting.

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Post Number:#18  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:47 pm

I have experimented using B5 (Pantothenic acid and not Pantethine) from NOW, Swanson’s and GNC brands in the last 4 years and following are my clinical views.

1. I have found NOW brand’s Pantothenic acid to be the best, in its clinical results.
2. ALL MY Diabetic patients (who haven’t undergone DMSO infusion treatment), have their HbA1 levels/Diabetes well controlled (below 6.0), no complications etc. and none use of any conventional drugs.
3. I have used this brand to treat CFS/Adrenal Fatigue, along with IV DSMO.
4. It has successfully been able to treat, skin disorders like Acne etc, premature hair graying.
5. I myself used it for 3 months and lost 15 lbs, with none changes in life style.
6. The max dosage required, in all my patients and that I experimented on myself was and is 3 grams/day of Pantothenic acid, in a divided dose.

All above based on clinical results.

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PS: IMPO, exceeding 3 grams/day or megadosing isn't required.

Edit: Poor typo on cell.
Last edited by eDOC on Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Number:#19  Post by confused1 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:46 pm

eDOC wrote:I have experimented using B5 (Pantothenic acid and not Pantothene) from NOW, Swanson’s and GNC brands in the last 4 years and following are my clinical views.

1. I have found NOW brand’s Pantothenic acid to be the best, in its clinical results.
When you say Now brand Pantothenic acid do you mean the Pantethine or the regular Calcium Pantothenate? Thanks eDOC, you are a wealth of information.

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Post Number:#20  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:54 pm

Another Point/Benefit of B5.

It does increase libido, in the cases that I have treated.

Ideal therapy for increased libido, raising testosterone/male sex hormone levels:

Though ideal situations rarely occur in life....but that's what I do for my patients:

Pantothenic acid + IV DMSO + followed by IV Glutathione.

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Post Number:#21  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:00 pm

confused1 wrote: When you say Now brand Pantothenic acid do you mean the Pantethine or the regular Calcium Pantothenate? Thanks eDOC, you are a wealth of information.


Correct, regular Calcium Pantothenate 500 mg: 45mg, no harm IF you can afford Pantethine, but I haven't witnessed any advantages with the later or side effects with Pantothenic acid.

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Post Number:#22  Post by francisunderwood » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:07 pm

Does anyone know why B5 is a low percentage of daily requirements compared to other B vitamins in B50 and B100 complexes?

I looked at my B50 complex and it has nearly 3000 percent of B1 and B2 but only 500 percent if B5 for example.

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Post Number:#23  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:11 pm

1. All my Diabetic patients are on Omega 3/6/9.
2. Since last 2 decades, I try my best to avoid synthetic transfats and use natural , but I regularly take Omega.
Consumption of synthetic transfats have serious side effects....

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Post Number:#24  Post by francisunderwood » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:19 pm

eDOC wrote:1. All my Diabetic patients are on Omega 3/6/9.
2. Since last 2 decades, I try my best to avoid synthetic transfats and use natural , but I regularly take Omega.
Consumption of synthetic transfats have serious side effects....

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Which Omega 3 6 9 do you take?

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Post Number:#25  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:25 pm

francisunderwood wrote:
eDOC wrote:1. All my Diabetic patients are on Omega 3/6/9.
2. Since last 2 decades, I try my best to avoid synthetic transfats and use natural , but I regularly take Omega.
Consumption of synthetic transfats have serious side effects....

eDOC!!


Which Omega 3 6 9 do you take?


Here you go, this one..........https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson ... -220-sgels

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Post Number:#26  Post by francisunderwood » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:37 pm

Thanks eDoc!

I'd be curios to see a list of supplements that you take daily when you have the time.

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Post Number:#27  Post by eDOC » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:49 pm

francisunderwood wrote:Thanks eDoc!

I'd be curios to see a list of supplements that you take daily when you have the time.


You're welcome, as to supplements that I take are the following, but not regularly, whenever I get time..........

1. K2, 200 mcg.
2. D3, 10,000 IU.
3. Selenium, 400 mcg.
4. Folic acid, 10 mg.
5. Silymarin, 150 mg.
6. Omega 3/6/9. 2400-4800 mg.
7. B3, 2000 mg.
8. B5, 3000 mg.
8. IV Glutathione, 4 grams.
9. IV DMSO, 70 mL.
10. IVC, 40-50 grams.


Hope it helps.

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11. IV CsCl, 8-16 grams, thrice a year...My favorite.
12. SR KCl, 500 mg.
13. S/L B12, 5000 mg.
14. DMSO mouth wash, 15 mL, daily.
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Post Number:#28  Post by francisunderwood » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:56 pm

Thanks eDoc, I will have to look part of that up!

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Post Number:#29  Post by ofonorow » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:22 am

eDOC - thank you again for your contribution based on clinical experience. I referenced Dr. Leung - out of Hong Kong - in 1995. Do you know if he is still alive, or has he published other papers that may not be in English?

And to Zarfas..


I am trying to understand how B5 makes you lose weight?
why would the body start burning more calories(fat) when given more b5?
so without b5, what is the body using for energy?

"No one said anything about a slow or fast metabolism."???

really? then what is changing when the megadoses of b5 are added?
I am trying to understand your position,
I understand b5 is in lots of rxs, so ? why would more b5 make a difference and do you have any science to support your assertions?


Again a collection of words that is hard for me to follow as a coherent thought or question. For the basic knowledge, you need to read the Leung paper that I referenced. It is 3 pages. Easy to read and explains his theory. These aren't my ideas, they are Dr. Leung's and in my opinion, his "discovery" is worth the Nobel prize. The only reason this work has been ignored, or at least the main reason, is the medical idea that only "tiny" amounts of vitamins are required. We know that isn't true with vitamin C. It isn't true with Niacin. We are learning it isn't true with vitamin B5.

So after you read the Leung paper, and understand why the body CANNOT BURN FAT EFFICIENTLY without Coenzyme A, which means without vitamin B5, it should start to make some sense. And like other areas, you will have to empty your mind of what you think you may already know about weight loss. Finally, since you like to look things up and repeat other's information, why not study Coenzyme A :D That would make interesting reading, at least for me.
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Post Number:#30  Post by tangy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:26 am

Well my B5 (Now Foods, Pantethine) is on its way and I plan to have 3 grams daily. I will be reporting my experience in this thread. I am obese and have low testosterone, hoping to correct both the issues with B5. I know it's a tall order :)


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