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Baselines
A. 134 mg/dl
B. 140 mg/dl (new B) after old meter > 400
C 135 mg/dl
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Meter Minute Reading
A +1 247
B+ +2 304
C +3 163
A +4 147
B+ +5 259
C +6 280
A +7 202
B+ +8 215
C +9 255
A +10 207
B+ +11 170
C +12 169
A +13 164
B+ +14 140
C +15 142
A +16 159
B+ +17 157
C +18 200
A +19 196
B+ +20 167
C +21 188
A +22 145
B+ +23 149
C +24 152
A +25 141
B+ +26 145
C +27 156
A +28 146
B+ +29 148
C +30 140
A +31 176
B+ +32 160
C +33 140
A +34 161
B+ +35 185
C +36 147
A +37 147
B+ +38 150
C +39 142
A +40 159
B+ +41 143
Paused measurements
A +45 145
B+ +50 142
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147,143,143,152,146,152,159,150,162,159,164,159,168,164,174,162,167,173,179,174,178,175,187,189,187,199,191,211,207,200,207,198,210,210,199,200,197,191,194,184
8346.66
8119.54
8119.54
8630.56
8289.880000000001
8630.56
9028.02
8517
9198.36
9028.02
9311.92
9028.02
9539.04
9311.92
9879.72
9198.36
9482.26
9822.94
10163.62
9879.72
10106.84
9936.5
10617.86
10731.42
10617.86
11299.22
10844.98
11980.58
11753.460000000001
11356
11753.460000000001
11242.44
11923.800000000001
11923.800000000001
11299.22
11356
11185.66
10844.98
11015.32
10447.52
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247,304,163,147,259,280,202,215,255,207,170,169,164,140,142,159,157,200,196,167,188,145,149,152,141,145,156,146,148,140,176,160,140,161,185,147,147,150,142,159
14024.66
17261.12
9255.14
8346.66
14706.02
15898.4
11469.56
12207.7
14478.9
11753.460000000001
9652.6
9595.82
9311.92
7949.2
8062.76
9028.02
8914.460000000001
11356
11128.880000000001
9482.26
10674.64
8233.1
8460.22
8630.56
8005.9800000000005
8233.1
8857.68
8289.880000000001
8403.44
7949.2
9993.28
9084.8
7949.2
9141.58
10504.300000000001
8346.66
8346.66
8517
8062.76
9028.02
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IV/C 210 - 124 (glucose baseline) = 86 mg/dl ==> approximately 4,883.08 umol/l
Oral 304 - 134 (glucose baseline) = 170 mg/dl ==> approximately 9,652.6 umol/l
Of the 15 000 measurements, the highest recorded serum value in a subject not receiving intravenous vitamin C was 220 umol/L . This is consistent with the published maximum value. With intravenous administration, Biolab have recorded plasma values in excess of 5000 umol/l, in subjects under ascorbate treatment for osteosarcoma
Hi Owen,
It would be very interesting indeed if a proportion of vit C is absorbed quickly.
The first question you are likely to be asked is: how have you calibrated the measuring device?
This may be me asking granny to suck eggs but I have experience of specialist labs badly messing up vitamin C measurements...
Do you have a response curve for ascorbic acid in distilled water?
Do you have a response curve for glucose in distilled water?
Then you need response??
s obtained by adding ascorbic acid to different physiological concentrations of glucose.
You may have all of these but I am particularly short of time for the next few days and unable to search through your forum properly.
Note in the discussion of pharmacokinetics to always remember Cathcart's bowel tolerance.
The dominant data is for healthy individuals and the experimenters ignore Cathcart.
Ignoring bowel tolerance is nuts but there are (of course) political and financial reasons for the data being restricted in this way.
Keep experimenting
Steve
5 liters
In an average healthy adult, the volume of blood is about one-eleventh of the body weight. Most sources state the volume of blood in an average human adult, who is between 150 to 160 pounds, as between 4.7 and 5 liters, although the more recent sources state the volume of blood in an average adult as 4.7 liters
ofonorow wrote:(Not sure why the EDTA should be added as this is not the condition in our blood streams?)
ofonorow wrote:At this point, the reason we call these measurements "crude", are because the precise numbers are not material to the argument that ascorbic acid (if it is indeed being measured) enters the blood stream much more rapidly than has been so far reported.
Baselines
A 99 mg/dl
B 112 mg/dl
C 112 mg/dl
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Meter Time Reading
A +1 117
B +2 116
C +3 142
A +4 128
B +5 140
C +6 138
A +7 129
B +8 137
C +9 113
A +10 134
B +11 124
C +12 128
A +13 131
B +14 198 ** felt like a bad reading - meter took too long to report
C +15 128
A +16 127
B +17 130
C +18 145
A +19 135
B +20 120
C +21 129
A +22 131
B +23 127
C +24 128
A +25 147
B +26 130
C +27 120
A +28 123
B +29 125
C +30 136
A +31 132
B +32 129
C +33 131
A +34 129
B +35 128
C +36 138
A +37 132
B +38 129
C +39 129
A +40 134
THEN, you are asked to drink a liquid of pure glucose and water,
Then, We take more glucose readings over the next 1-4 hours.
These readings allows us to draw a GRAPH, showing your body's response to glucose.
In ALL cases, you body will show a sudden "spike" in the blood sugar level almost immediately after you drink the fluid.
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