Re: whole food form vitamin c
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:33 am
blueskymyne wrote:Let food be your medicine"- Linus Pauling. Go ahead and argue with the man himself.
It's odd that you keep quoting Linus Pauling when he is the quintessential advocate of high (animal level) doses of vit C
and considered ascorbate as synonymous with vitamin C. In addition, your assertion about B12 depletion is contradicted
by Pauling.
Your logic regarding the current state of our evolution is flawed. The most compelling logic is that since the rest of the animal world
can sythesise their own vitamin C and since all those different species have not naturally selected this feature out over many
more millions of years than humans have been around, it is not at all reasonable to assume that those few who have lost
this ability are somehow immune, are somehow 'correct' just because they are this way. It is far more logical to view this
loss of synthesis ability as a defect unless you can prove why it is we do not need similar amounts.
The idea that "we got by just fine" is not scientific or logical. As I said before DNA doesn't care how long you live or how healthy
you are as long as you reproduce and survive. You also do not take into account the massive changes in habitat and
diet humans have migrated to since that enzyme was not carried over for whatever reason. So who's to say that
we have not now regained the need for this ability but that evolution has not had time to re-instate it?
All that ranting about the food producers and synthetic this and that is just totally irrelevant, regardless of its accuracy.
CODEX is not an illusion it is very real and its biggest opponents are on the natural product, supplements, whole foods etc
side of the fence. The real enemy, the big pharma companies, love it.
The issue about ascobic acid can be broken down to a rather simple equation; Setting aside for a moment any speculation
about evolution or natural selection etc. If the rest of the animal world is synthesising the quantities of ascorbic acid that
they do everyday, then in order to argue that humans do not need a similar amount you must show the reason why
because we certainly cannot get anywhere near that level on even a very healthy diet without supplementation.
Arguments about only needing vit C as a 'complex' are without any factual basis when the rest of animal world does not
get their vit C this way. Forget comparisons to other vitamins, each vitamin is a very different thing, just because some
may occur in a 'complex' has no logical connection to vitamin C and the ascorbate synthesis of animals is key evidence
to this difference.